someone died? ... x_X

... meh.. um.... *confused* Don't people die all the time? ... I mean.. like.. every few seconds or something people die and people are born... And. . . .. I'm pretty sure people that use Gaia die too.... *scratches head* ... I'm confused...

How would this whole thing get started anyway? .. What... one of her best friends went on gaia and was all like 'oh man! My friend died! put this in your sig to show you care!' ... X_o

Of course, as usual.. I know nothing about it and I'm runnin my mouth again... But still...

Well, if she was one of those "Remember me!" type people, I guess she'd be happy. . . >>

~Dasair?

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3003969 would be the link where the gut wrenching info is. I say go read it if you haven't. Granted, you'll shed a tear or two.

- Hel

... Meh.. I have read it... Found it shortly after I read this...

.. Well.. at least her friends themselves said not to make such a big deal out of it... I can understand some grief from others, but leave it to gaia to blow things out of the water...

... I feel for them.. But I can't say I'd shed a tear.... Of course, I'm just apathetic like that.. I might not care so much if some random person died in front of me as I would if someone was trying to pick a fight with This Thing...

But then again, I am insane...
~Dasair

Oh good. You're normal, as some people should be.

Well I don't suspect that it's bad at all.

(Now what's this shit about you searching for Death? You know you're a dumbfuck for doing so...)

- Hel

*just kind of stumbled here while looking for something random to read*

Heh. I am one of those asshats who has a blurb about her in my sig. Why? I didn't know her personally. I only even remembered who this "Chiharu" person was after I looked at her profile and saw her sig. I just think it sucks on general principle. I read most of the first post of the thread about her death, and I really feel sorry for the people who were closer to her. I only express in my signature that I wish for her to rest in peace and make the obvious and banal observation that she is missed and remembered. Not necessarily by ME, mind you, but in general.

I think that much of the reason why so many other people are honoring her death is because, well, you never really notice how cool something is until you lose it. At least, I like to think that's why. The real reason is probably closer to "because she/and or her boyfriend is popular."

Aiyah. I have to go to work now, or I'd write more. Ciao.

-Chi Ten

.. yeah.. good point Chi Ten... But.. I still remain... erm.. apathetic... As I am... <<

... And yeah... I probably am a dumbfuck for chasing after Death all the time... But I really haven't much of a reason to live anyway... Yeah there are the perks of life, but all the hate directed toward me in general outweighs my caring so I guess I could say that most of the time, I wouldn't give a fuck if I died anyway...

Stupid? yes. But I can't help it.. at least till I find a purpose.. and... what do ya know? Necromancy has givin me something to do... >> So... I have a purpose in trying to be a necromancer... which... is the problem in the first place...

such a visious cycle...and a slight obsession with Death in general can't help...
~Dasair

Chi Ten: I sure do understand your point. Anyone associated with something you like should always be missed and remembered. To that I agree with you. However... the point I'm getting at is that certain users are asking mods to put her in the spotlight. You know, avatar spotlight, sub forum dedication... gold donations... let's just say that it's rather improper.

With this questionable attention, you'll get stupid wannabe dumbfucks pretending to be killed off or commit suicide... just to get attention.

See where I'm getting at?

Dasair: Necromancy IS your reason to live, that much I'll agree on. However you're giving yourself too little of a chance to let other things be your reason. Family, friends, a certain obsession, whichever the fact it may be. Seeing that you're still traning in Necromancy... you know I could lend a hand or two. And besides, teenage years are always known to be the worst of the bunch. It gets better later; that much I'll guarantee.

- Hel

Yeah, I see your point. Things like that have already happened on LiveJournal, even without official special attention being given to the deceased. There are tons of stories about people who create alternate accounts where they pose as someone cool who is eventually loved by many but has some terminal illness (usually cancer - the symptoms are vague enough that you can feign illness without having to be an expert in it) and eventually dies, all to get attention.

The thing about Gaia, though, is that unlike LJ there's no good way to blog so you can't follow the events in a specific person's life day-by-day. Therefore, most users are distant enough from each other that one would have to work really hard to gain enough popularity for the dying-for-attention ploy to work. For example, I could probably feign my death on LJ right now (though it would be kind of hard to hide from some people who have me on their friends list like, say, my mom) and people would mourn me. Not too many, but probably enough if I were an attention-deprived loser. However, if I were to pretend to die on Gaia there wouldn't even be anyone left to tell people that I had passed on. XD I'd just drop off the face of the earth, and since I spend an average of two weeks out of any given month in a dropped-off-the-face-of-the-earth state anyway (because I'm just a flake like that), nobody would really notice!

Um. I had a point somewhere. What was it? Oh, yes. So, I don't think that too many people will try to do that. Or, if they do we won't notice because it won't work. The only reason people know about Chiharu's death is because her boyfriend is fairly prominent on Gaia and is the kind of person who is comfortable with sharing this sort of thing with a bunch of anonymous people. The only reason she's getting any attention is because she was also fairly popular. And it seems that on Gaia the only people who get that popular are the fairly intelligent, sensible ones who wouldn't manipulate other people's feelings for their own personal gain.

I mean, she's likely not the first Gaian to die, right?

Ah. So she was a bit popular. Yeah, the fact that the boyfriend is just as popular does balance the factor of announcing her death on Gaia in the first place.

And yes, she's not the first to die. Remember the thread where Loki got banned? Well guess what... she killed herself soon after. Without a way to announce that he was joking, she took everything as face value.

To that - is that pure and equalized Karma? I think not. If you ask me, he should be systematically killed and subjected to torture. Be it up to me, I would ban Loki's current account and lay the fucking smack down myself.

But past aside, he had his time to think about his utterly stupid act.

Well anyway, back to topic at hand. Although the intentions were dead-on pure, which I won't ever judge or look down upon, the publicity is bad. I'm looking at the whole situation as one huge "I died and look at all these people who care about me! Don't you feel like a piece of shit?" episode.

It's still a delicate matter to discuss about. But I've said my peace about it. I only wish I had a way to rejoin Gaia and voice my opinions to the general public, without stupid asses persecuting Loki and I as the same person, just because we look the same and happen to have similar sigs.

*sigh*
- Hel

... >>... Well... yeah... I must say my friends have kept me alive in their ways.... Like... saying they'll kill themselves if anything happens to me... that usually works... Before they began to think like me (heh) they were usually happy and knew nothing about the.. deeper.. issues I constantly thought about.. so... that pushed it back in my mind... Now it's basicly cause they'd all lose it if I died.

...And.. my obsession.... Heh.. that's what's keeping me alive now... My friends too, but basicly, if I had nothing to want, then I wouldn't see a point... And while I wouldn't go so far as to kill myself, which I could never do while I was sane... I would still lose it... like I have before.. And it'd probably stay that way... Cause the first and longest time it happened, it took a lot to bring me back... My boyfriend comforting me for about 30mins, my best friend reassuring me, people convincing me that I wasn't alone anymore... neh.. and I thought at the time 'how would I ever be normal again?' ..

Well, I haven't been.. After that I started heavily on necromancy...Once I figured something out due to a loss of a boyfriend to someone who used to 'worship' me.. (for artistic reasons).. Blah blah.. I was screwed over... And then I had this one secret that he just so happened to blab to a bunch of people who didn't even know me...

I don know. I can be pretty one sided... I see nothing in this world, no jobs, no activities, no purposes besides my obsession, my friends, and necromancy that would make me happy... I'm just not content about how the world works in general... And because other people are, (which I can't understand sometimes) they find me wierd and any (and I mean any) chance they get to see something different, they put me down.

I don even know if any of that had to do with what you previously said... >> ... But yeah.. I'm too stuborn and stupid to dub anything else a 'purpose' of mine. Cause, I do have a reason for necromancy, a very important one which will go unsaid.. And so far, nothing else seems as relavent...

~Dasair

Holy cow. I had no idea that that other girl died. That's really horrible. o_o I don't think Loki should've got banned, though. His words sounded like something I would've said if I hadn't known any better, and for that reason I was kind of freaked-out to learn that he had been banned for them with no chance to apologise or redeem himself at all. Plus, in hindsight, banning him was an ineffective and perhaps even destructive action. Loki is back, and the girl is dead. Net result: someone died. This doesn't really make the mods look good, at least to me and, while I agree that Loki was being pretty stupid I think he could've defused the situation on his own if given the chance. Or am I being unrealistic?

Anyway, yeah. I'm not sure what you mean by "I died and look at all these people who care about me! Don't you feel like a piece of shit?" You'll have to pardon me. I think I'm just being slow tonight.

It sucks that people treat you and Loki as the same person, though what do you expect? People can be kind of stupid. Besides, maybe it's good that this doesn't necessarily get out to Gaia at large, at least not while people are still sensitive about the subject.

-Chiiz